Kollibri, there are a lot of things to learn in this world. We never know which lesson is coming next. Perhaps you are learning about how we humans age and die. That alone can be different for each of us. Aging and caring for the older population is a missing subject in all of our educational systems. I went through a crash course when caring for my parents at the end of their lives. They were very fine and healthy people well into their 80's when it became apparent, that they needed help. I spent the next 10 years learning about how to help them and there was so much to learn! But as I say, they were fine people who I loved, and I needed to learn what this aging stuff was all about if for no other reason than to help me at that time in life. The good news is that some part of me had been preparing for that time with them. Tending to be a self-sufficient little beast, I started to learn how to bend with the needs and practicalities of each day. I also learned a good deal about these people, my parents and grew closer to them. So, I tell you this in hopes that it sends some information that may help you on your new path, whatever that path may be.
An interesting meditation. Reminds me of this persistent problem in the Occupy encampments -- I observed this coast to coast where asshole behavior drove people away that really wanted to be there. Collective efforts were needed to hold space for everybody. One big city I knew of did triage as people entered the camp, addressing the special needs of assholes with compassion and, sometimes, professional services. Would it have worked long term? We'll never know, because Obama had cops violently evict the encampments.
I should write specifically about troublemakers. However, I did write about how the Kurdish people deal with conflicts amidst their non-state bottom up system of democracy. My piece on the tekmil.
If you are ever down here in The Inland Empire would love to invite you to our home for a meal and to see what my husband (Palestinian/therefore indigenous worldview) and I (from the puget sound/therefore love trees) are trying to do with our multi generational brood of millennials and gen z on 1/3 acre in SoCal suburbia. We’re definitely not farmers, but trying to keep ahead of the curve through love and companionship.
This three part series is possibly the best writing I’ve read this summer. I just forwarded to a dear friend who I worked with back in the eighties where we were next to each other in cubicles with no windows in sight. Now both retired federal employees we worked with so many assholes we lost count. But assholes in the U.S. government are a different kettle of fish than farmers or land owners. I am deeply sorry for your experiences this summer. My worldview changed completely these past 15 years. And I’m grateful for people like you who are teaching me so much. I’m looking forward to your next adventure and learning more about how the book is coming.
Great article on an important subject. I would appreciate it if you were to return the favor of subscribing, and I would be more than happy to repost some of your stuff on my Substack. Lemme know. https://jstuckey.substack.com
i have often pondered on the issues of land ownership, as someone desperate for a home and also as a land owner.
right now I am lucky enough to be living on a piece of wilderness that is very bossy. there aint much farming going on here, but acorns rain from the sky and the wildlife is varied and the water flows so we have what we need. pulling anything out for profit would be a real struggle. in fact the land is mostly rock and its hard in all the ways to change it so we dont.
its a huge relief to have such a bossy master. we get less mired in the dos and don'ts. and the land gets to be in charge. and we are in its service. my neighbor has spent years in community - like 40? including very ideal ones like zendig farm where she didn't touch money for 15 years, lived of the land with about 50 people (that everyone who lived there had a right to) and it was pretty exploratory in trying to make something different work. so many failures and trauma all round. fascinating stories. she eventually had to leave as maintaining consensus became far too exhausting. seems that sometimes agreeing is a hard as disagreeing. the angle of approach is basically wrong....and its is sure as hell isn't about who happens to fall in line.
I hope you find your community and i hope you get to see what arseholes have to teach you ;)
Garden for the enjoyment of the act, and the pleasure of real, nutrient dense, high-quality food. The collapse will be an unimaginable unknowable very quick, cascade event. That’s how the end of unsustainable system dynamics work. Unless your community is a fortress, don’t worry about it. I personally, I feel dizzy only prep work needed is Kieth. Hey syringe full of triple V overdose rate of high-quality cocaine in the freezer There’s nothing to prep for. Unless you want to get all mad max. I think I’ll skip that.
How did communities handle troublemakers in the past? It all depends on how much luxury a community - and a time - has to put up with nonsense. That is, how much threat to survival the nonsense represents. In our current unravelling time, we still nonetheless have great luxury, even the folks striving for alternative lifestyles. An asshole rarely represents a literal threat to survival. When the day comes that such people once more do, i suspect we will be dealing with them as we used to before the oil age, before this era of immense luxury that can absorb so much of our nonsense with little real repercussion. We will send them packing, summarily, and if that isn't effective we will jail them, shoot them, and/or hang them and be done with it.
Kollibri, there are a lot of things to learn in this world. We never know which lesson is coming next. Perhaps you are learning about how we humans age and die. That alone can be different for each of us. Aging and caring for the older population is a missing subject in all of our educational systems. I went through a crash course when caring for my parents at the end of their lives. They were very fine and healthy people well into their 80's when it became apparent, that they needed help. I spent the next 10 years learning about how to help them and there was so much to learn! But as I say, they were fine people who I loved, and I needed to learn what this aging stuff was all about if for no other reason than to help me at that time in life. The good news is that some part of me had been preparing for that time with them. Tending to be a self-sufficient little beast, I started to learn how to bend with the needs and practicalities of each day. I also learned a good deal about these people, my parents and grew closer to them. So, I tell you this in hopes that it sends some information that may help you on your new path, whatever that path may be.
An interesting meditation. Reminds me of this persistent problem in the Occupy encampments -- I observed this coast to coast where asshole behavior drove people away that really wanted to be there. Collective efforts were needed to hold space for everybody. One big city I knew of did triage as people entered the camp, addressing the special needs of assholes with compassion and, sometimes, professional services. Would it have worked long term? We'll never know, because Obama had cops violently evict the encampments.
Yes exactly. I was thinking of things like Occupy when I penned this piece, as well as other activist movements I've been in or observed.
I should write specifically about troublemakers. However, I did write about how the Kurdish people deal with conflicts amidst their non-state bottom up system of democracy. My piece on the tekmil.
https://collapsecurriculum.substack.com/p/the-internal-revolution-necessary?utm_source=publication-search
Thanks very much, Justin, and I am looking forward to reading that article.
What a great article. I restacked it and am sharing it with friends.
If you are ever down here in The Inland Empire would love to invite you to our home for a meal and to see what my husband (Palestinian/therefore indigenous worldview) and I (from the puget sound/therefore love trees) are trying to do with our multi generational brood of millennials and gen z on 1/3 acre in SoCal suburbia. We’re definitely not farmers, but trying to keep ahead of the curve through love and companionship.
We live in the IE, at least for a while longer. I am glad you have 'found your voice.' Must have been difficult. What's your take on Scott Ritter?
This three part series is possibly the best writing I’ve read this summer. I just forwarded to a dear friend who I worked with back in the eighties where we were next to each other in cubicles with no windows in sight. Now both retired federal employees we worked with so many assholes we lost count. But assholes in the U.S. government are a different kettle of fish than farmers or land owners. I am deeply sorry for your experiences this summer. My worldview changed completely these past 15 years. And I’m grateful for people like you who are teaching me so much. I’m looking forward to your next adventure and learning more about how the book is coming.
Wow thanks do much, Aleta!
Great article on an important subject. I would appreciate it if you were to return the favor of subscribing, and I would be more than happy to repost some of your stuff on my Substack. Lemme know. https://jstuckey.substack.com
Thanks, and I just subscribed!
Your article on troublemakers is now published on my Substack and posted on FB.
Thanks, John!
i have often pondered on the issues of land ownership, as someone desperate for a home and also as a land owner.
right now I am lucky enough to be living on a piece of wilderness that is very bossy. there aint much farming going on here, but acorns rain from the sky and the wildlife is varied and the water flows so we have what we need. pulling anything out for profit would be a real struggle. in fact the land is mostly rock and its hard in all the ways to change it so we dont.
its a huge relief to have such a bossy master. we get less mired in the dos and don'ts. and the land gets to be in charge. and we are in its service. my neighbor has spent years in community - like 40? including very ideal ones like zendig farm where she didn't touch money for 15 years, lived of the land with about 50 people (that everyone who lived there had a right to) and it was pretty exploratory in trying to make something different work. so many failures and trauma all round. fascinating stories. she eventually had to leave as maintaining consensus became far too exhausting. seems that sometimes agreeing is a hard as disagreeing. the angle of approach is basically wrong....and its is sure as hell isn't about who happens to fall in line.
I hope you find your community and i hope you get to see what arseholes have to teach you ;)
Garden for the enjoyment of the act, and the pleasure of real, nutrient dense, high-quality food. The collapse will be an unimaginable unknowable very quick, cascade event. That’s how the end of unsustainable system dynamics work. Unless your community is a fortress, don’t worry about it. I personally, I feel dizzy only prep work needed is Kieth. Hey syringe full of triple V overdose rate of high-quality cocaine in the freezer There’s nothing to prep for. Unless you want to get all mad max. I think I’ll skip that.
How did communities handle troublemakers in the past? It all depends on how much luxury a community - and a time - has to put up with nonsense. That is, how much threat to survival the nonsense represents. In our current unravelling time, we still nonetheless have great luxury, even the folks striving for alternative lifestyles. An asshole rarely represents a literal threat to survival. When the day comes that such people once more do, i suspect we will be dealing with them as we used to before the oil age, before this era of immense luxury that can absorb so much of our nonsense with little real repercussion. We will send them packing, summarily, and if that isn't effective we will jail them, shoot them, and/or hang them and be done with it.